powerflex bushes, again!

[BlackKnight]

Can someone plese explain to me like I'm a complete idiot that I am, how are these camber correcting bushes supposed to work(again)?

Other camber kits usually have an eccentric screw with support on the outside so they dont spin and lose geometry. However, Powerflex camber correcting bushes come with neither eccentric screws or any kind of means of stopping them from spinning on the screw and losing geometry settings. At least that's how it seems.

I didn't take a good look at how they're made before I gave them to my mechanic to fit them but I can't imagine any way they would work. Maybe I'm just a bit daft and there's a simple explanation.

Anyway, I'm begging someone to explain exaclty what parts they're made of, what is eccentric, how it works, what is exactly the procedure for setting up camber with them. Is it done when the car is raised because it seems impossible to spin them while the car is on the ground. Also, do I spin one side of the bush against the other or something? Also, picking a right tool to access the "bolt part" of the bush seems tricky too. I'm running out of geometry setup places as they're getting annoyed with me insisting the bushes should correct camber somehow and are widely used. Spinning them around usually changes nothing, some toe changes, but even toe gets messed up after a drive as I presume they spin and lose the setup. The mechanics usually get annoyed trying to do anything with them and then try and explain to me there's no way the bushes would work.

I can not find any manual or a proper explanation how they should be setup. The box came with a small piece of paper that says they are geometry altering eccentric bushes and should be installed by "experts". Well, I took the car to 3 different geometry setup places which are supposed to be the best in the area and they cant find a way to make the work. The outer - "toe" bushes seem to work but they also loose their setup after a drive.

Sorry for the long post, but I'm quite annoyed with them.

[WillsToy]

Maybe if you get in touch with powerflex themselves, but i would think a quick phone call to regal or courtney may help.
Pretty sure if you do a search on here , MIGWEB , VOXN you might get an answer as this must of been asked before

Will

[Stupink]

Heh. well if you find out let me know.. I ended up weldign a small tab onto the chassis against the hex on the end of the bush to stop it spinning back round again.. I'm "sure" theres a propper way to install them though, just don't ask me what it is lol.

[BlackKnight]

ROFL! Welding a small tab! That's ridiculous(by that I mean no offense to you stu). I'll be ordering the proper K-MAC rear kit after vacation. Even though their front camber/castor kit fell apart after just one week, maybe they could refund me by sending me a rear kit.

[Stupink]

indeed, but i coudlnt for the life of me see how it could be done any other way.. I would have phoned powerflex, but I was at work and needed the car to get home.. i'd be interested in their answer if anyone else cares to ring them..
I have the kmac kit ready to install on my propper car. sod the money [img]/smile.gif[/img]

[callyben]

i had these fitetd to my old cavy turbo.

basicly the hole in the middle of the 2 part bushes is slightly off centre and they have flats on the outside to adjust. once tightened fully they should not spin round and go out of adjustment. once they are set up mark the bushes with tppex or another form of permanent marking fluid (paint). make sure it is easily seen and visually check them regularly.

when you adjust them they will alter the toe and the camber at the same time. basicly find a happy medium. i lowered my cavy 35mm and they set up perfectly and i never had a problem with uneven wear or handling issues.

hope that helps. just ask if you want to anything else.