FWD LET with F28 Virtually no understeer

Any issues relating to suspension, steering and brakes.

by Stupink » Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:38 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Rusty_CallyT+--><div class='quotetop'>(Rusty_CallyT)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->how the hell do you drift it?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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by nikp » Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:48 pm

Or crappy tyres! [img]/tongue.gif[/img]
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by cally2003 » Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:54 pm

Nope, new good tyres

My brother was the one who drifted it (not me tut, tut)

I was in the passanger seat, and to be honest, it was scary!

All I could hear was the dump valve going tshhh, tshhh and see the car facing the bush
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by LE16 » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:01 pm

Ok so your telling me how my car drives which is fantastic. It used to be bad with the 8v engine but it's great now.. Reason i put this post up is because i noticed that it had'nt happened for ages unless i dump the clutch and make it happen.
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by Stupink » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:22 pm

It may be "better" with a heavier engine/gearbox up front yes [img]/smile.gif[/img] a super setup with "virtually no understeer" no.. you'll notice most of the replies are from turbo owners, hardly uneducated comments.
If you seriously have to dump the clutch to get understeer from overpowering it, then as i initially said, me thinks your engine isnt running tip top.. get that boost gauge installed asap, probably running low boost.
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by cally2003 » Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:02 pm

SE5, what suspension do you have on your car?.

On my ecotec, I had standard. My brothers redtop had 60mm suspection

I once followed him down some narrow roads

He didn't break around the corners and went round them just fine. Me on the other hand lost traction.

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by MJ » Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:28 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-cally2003+--><div class='quotetop'>(cally2003)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Nope, new good tyres

My brother was the one who drifted it (not me tut, tut)

I was in the passanger seat, and to be honest, it was scary!

All I could hear was the dump valve going tshhh, tshhh and see the car facing the bush<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


by "drift" you really mean he lost the back end driving like a cnut! [img]/smile.gif[/img]
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by BlackKnight » Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:12 pm

all this makes no sense at all.

my ex vx220 seemed to understeer like a pig, but in reality, i never got any understeer when driving properly on a track. a bit too much of oversteer even, deflated the rears a bit and all was fine and dandy..
and yet im sure 90% of people would call it an understeering pig.

point being, all cars should understeer, they should understeer A LOT when being raped around with no sense of driving.
but it only counts as an understeering pig if you do a bend in it absolutely perfect and it still comes out understeering like a pig, heh.

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by DeepSnoozer » Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:22 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-nikp+--><div class='quotetop'>(nikp)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Never a truer word spoken! You can sneeze and get a calibra to understeer!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

that's not true.
the calibra 16v c20xe for instance has 55% 45% weight distribuition, mainly because the driver is sitting in the middle of the car.
Also, the calibra doenst understeer that badly. Polos G40's Puntos Pumas Alfa romeo 33 1.7 and cars like that understeer pretty badly
i would say that the calibra is not that bad for a FWD car, specially if you lower your car and cause it to camber a littlebit on the rear wheels
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by T.F.S. » Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:51 am

cant belive you guys are serious
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by Stupink » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:21 am

I guess at the end of the day it really is all relative. so depends what else you've had.
Untill I bought my Mr2 and realised what a car can actually do I may well have said the cally isnt that bad as my previous car was a mk2 16v GTE... now that understeers..
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by nikp » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:28 am

Even when i had the calibra i knew the handling was terrible. When I got the RX-7, all was confirmed.

<!--QuoteBegin-DeepSnoozer+--><div class='quotetop'>(DeepSnoozer)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Also, the calibra doenst understeer that badly<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Jeez! It's terrible at understeer!


<!--QuoteBegin-BlackNight+--><div class='quotetop'>(BlackNight)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->point being, all cars should understeer, they should understeer A LOT when being raped around with no sense of driving<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

No, not all cars should understeer. You should be able to get all cars to understeer, but it is not necassarily designed into them. Nearly all front wheel drive cars have understeer designed into them as a safety feature.
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by jay_se5 » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:33 am

im quiet happy with my handling on my cally,, both the 1's ive had have been ok,, they both been lowered by 40mm and on 17's,,,,my mr2 was good,, but so unreliable
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