Toad Ai606 Installed Monday What Else ??

**Defiance** · by **Defiance** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:03 pm

Hiya's,
Having the toad ai606 installed monday, Now am i right in thinking this about
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Door Pop ..... Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£35 For popping the door open when your vehicle is de-handled 

Door pop, Would allow me to do away with the whole door handle/lock (the standard one on my calibra) ?? (i can weld so would back weld a plate over door handle area and fill flush etc) so if required i would disarm the toad and maybe click spare button etc and then door would pop open (thinking this would deter some of the scum that float around my me from even attempting a steal

I am thinking one on drivers door is all i would need ??

Also what about mot etc ?? Would i have to drop electric windows down if i de-locked and de-handled the doors for a mot pass in september ????

I am also getting the proximity gizmo fitted (if they have enough time) so wondered what you guys/gals think
Just want to know am i thinking on the right track as-in what door popper does

All these new fangled gizmos lol

Any help or advice be mucho appreciated [img]/smile.gif[/img]

Thanks

Ciao

Def



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MJ · by MJ » Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:07 pm

I cant see how dehandled cars pass the MOT but I suppose they must so yeah dropping the windows is the only option really.

what about the safety aspect though? if you crash and someone needs to get you out?

also dont forget your boot wont be deadlocked so will become the weakest link.

**Defiance** · by **Defiance** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:27 pm

Hiya MJ,

To pass his/her mot they lowered the windows down, This as far as mot requirements made the "door open/close properly" or what that actual test is called a pass as the hand can unclick and open the door from it's internal/interior opening lever

This is something i've read or glanced over while looking into de-locking a cabby i have i really can't remember

Maybe the installers monday can give me a view on this as they do all kinds of mot's also (cars/vans and i think somewhere they have a hgv or whatever class mot place)

Are there any production top range cars that use a pop system ??

I am new to all this glitz and gizmo side of vehicles [img]/sad.gif[/img] so trying to learn as i go lol

Cheers

Ciao

Def

**Defiance** · by **Defiance** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:31 pm

Ahh safety i always kept a stanley knife for cutting seatbelts etc by floor vin plate in gte's
Was gonna buy that funky emergancy tool with seat belt cutter and window hammer specially for window emergencies

Could do a post purely as an mot Q i guess if i can find somewhere where mot Q's get answered by experts ?

Ciao

Def

MJ · by MJ » Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:45 pm

I wasnt particularly meaning a getting out issue as there are numerous posibilitys for that if your able to, its more an issue of fire brigade/paramedic etc getting in were you to have lost conciousness and be in flames (for example) I think some cars, some lambourghini (from memory) have a 'hidden' solenoid button under the mirror to pop the door, I dunno, maybe ive just got all responsible in my old age lol

**Defiance** · by **Defiance** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:49 pm

Hiya MJ,
Responsibilty and Safety are the best mix [img]/smile.gif[/img]

I have posted on a site so hopefully some mot'er or expert shoud post

Anyways the installers should know 1 way or another lol

Cheers

Have Fun

Def

**Defiance** · by **Defiance** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:24 am

Hiya,
Well this is what i got from a reply by if i remember rightly is a tester himself .........

The Mot states

Doors

This inspection does not apply if no drivers or front passenger's doors were fitted as part of the original design of the vehicle.
A lack of door handles because of original design characteristics or specialist modification is not a reason for rejection provided the door can be latched securely in the dosed position.

Method of inspection

Open and close the drivers and passengers' doors. Check that each latches securely in the closed position. Check also that front doors can be opened from both inside and outside the vehicle.

Reasons for rejection

a. A driver's or any passengers door does not latch securely in the closed position
b. a driver's or front passenger's door cannot be opened from both inside and outside the vehicle from the relevant control in each case.

Note: Reason for rejection 1 b does not apply to:
. goods vehicles modified for the carriage of high value cargoes such as armoured security vehicles
. front passenger doors if the door aperture has been permanently 'filled' as part of a specialised customisation provided that there are no obvious aperture gaps.

So if it can be opened electronically and is secure when shut then it should pass

He he, No handles/lock here i come [img]/biggrin.gif[/img]

Have Fun

Ciao

Def

MJ · by MJ » Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:39 am

yep I agree ..... and as far as the security aspect goes, ive never seen a calibra or cav thats been broken into through the door lock/handle (remember these are deadlocks so even with the whole handle popped in/out it'd still be locked?) they tend .... in my experience at least .... to get broken into thru the boot or by smashing a window.

**Defiance** · by **Defiance** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:07 pm

Hiya's,
Yeah i guess most cars are passengerside window jobs (my valver theft attempt was anyways)

But for the average single brain-celled twit that may think of having a go seeing no lock or handle to jimmy may deter them somewhat

But i am looking at no handles with another kind of perspective .............

The handles on mine are worn and the lock cover hole thing is pretty tore up, So instead of having the hastle to fit veccy ones i can weld decent so could do away with the whole gubbins and have a sleak door

I'm sure sooner or later the hooded chav teenagers by me would try screw-drivering the locks out of pure imcompitence

Anyways i will check tomorrow and if need be i can always get it mot'ed at place that's fitting them [img]/wink.gif[/img]

Cheers

Ciao

Def

**ecosseM** · by **ecosseM** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:12 pm

tvr's pass mot test etc with no door handles, the tuscan(i think) has a button under the mirrors... with as far as led to believe, is the mos common and easiest place to locate them

**Defiance** · by **Defiance** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:59 pm

Hiya's,
Had the system installed and also the proximity gizmo

Damn chuffed with the result [img]/smile.gif[/img]

At a later date i am going to have full closure/drivers-side doorpopper/tilt gizmo/smash glass gizmo/and i think something along the lines of text-warning gizmo ? (he was pushed due to family issues or else he could of fitted more goodies)

As you can tell i'm really an oldhand at car security systems !!!! NOT lol

Think the proximity toy is cool lol

Well he earned his dough and i got all the paperwork etc so i'm delighted [img]/smile.gif[/img]

Ciao

Have Fun

Def

**Defiance** · by **Defiance** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:57 am

LMAO but true he he

Feel better now she is more secure though [img]/smile.gif[/img]

Ohh well off for sleep after hectic day

Have Fun

Ciao

Def

**MR_TOAD** · by **MR_TOAD** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:49 pm

<div class='quotetop'>(Defiance)</div><div class='quotemain'>LMAO but true he he

Feel better now she is more secure though [img]/smile.gif[/img]

Ohh well off for sleep after hectic day

Have Fun

Ciao

Def</div>

Glad your happy AI606 is the bees knees

Total closure windows will close with alarm do you mean sunroof

Ian

**Defiance** · by **Defiance** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:40 am

Hiya,
Yeah i meant sunroof (seems sluggish so may have to take out and check etc) .........................

Well today i had to laugh (well i almost wet myself laughing, Chuckling now thinking about it)

The cally is under a dutch barn my gte cabby is out in the open and another gte valver is on blocks, Well i heard the proximity going off doing it's chirping lol, Looked over and the dog hadn't seen where i was and had automatically gone front paws first onto side of cally to see if i was in it, Well of course the chirps started and she didn't know wtf it was, Looking over she goes round other side and does the same and chirps start again, lmao by now she's cocking her head side to side trying to figure why this metallic object is making weird noises as she goes from one side to another

Man ohh man was it funny to watch

She eventually heard me laughing and came running over and then kept looking back at the cally lmao really funny

Ciao

Def

Toad Ai606 Installed Monday What Else ??

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